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Permission to StayPermission to Stay in Italy ( Permesso di Soggiorno ) "It is the law that, you must be registered for a Permesso di Soggiorno with in 8 business days of arrival in Italy." There are two main ways of getting a Permesso
di Soggiorno: The first is a Permesso di Soggiorno, Motivi Turismo (motive of tourism). As a tourist you probably aren't even aware that you are being registered at the local police department for a Permesso di Soggiorno. Usually any hotel proprietor, campsite owner or vacation rental will simply ask for your "documents" fill out the forms needed and then return your documents to you. This all seems fairly effortless to our naïve tourist eyes and at this level it is pretty easy. The proprietors usually take the forms of all guests, avoiding the queues or lines because they are Italian citizens, and drop off those documents once a week or so to the Local Police. Not so bad. As tourists we go on our happy way enjoying the sites, the quaint shops, the tasty gelato and amicable Italian locals. We have no knowledge of the amount of bureaucratic paper shuffling and running back in forth the Italians and those who chose to live in Italy have to endure. If you do not stay in a tourist accommodation, even though you are
staying for a period less than 3 months, you are required to file for
a Permesso di Soggiorno. This Permesso di Soggiorno would be under the
motive of tourism but you must take your paper work to the local Questura
yourself. The Questura or Polizia di Stato, is the state police office
in charge of immigration and foreigners according to your place of stay,
apartment, house, hotel etc. The paper work you are required to have
is: Permesso di Soggiorno (Motivi Turismo)
Keep in mind that required documents may change from region to region,
so it is always wise to ask what is required before embarking on the
4 to 5 hour wait to register for you Permesso di Soggoirno. The second way of getting a Permesso di Sogiorno requires first getting a visa. If you plan on being anything besides a tourist in Italy you must first get a non-tourist visa. This visa should be obtained in your home country where you will have to deal with your local Italian Consulate. I have heard some extraordinary stories of battles with local Italian Consulates. These consulates can sometimes be more disorganized and less cordial and cooperative than the Italian bureaucrats in Italy. Once you have a visa you can then enter Italy and stay longer than
the three months allowed with a tourist visit. Do not be mistaken by
thinking once you have the visa and have entered Italy you are legal.
The visa is only the 1st step the second is registering for the Permesso
di Soggiorno at your local Questura (state police) once in Italy.
I. Lavoro (work), is divided, into three options. You are asked to specify what kind of work in each case and often need an Italian employer willing to say they will grant you work. 1. Professionale (professional) asks what kind of work. II. Studio (studies), which is split into five categories. In this case you need to have documentation of enrollment into a school, university or institution of education. 1. Universita`, facolta` e sede (University, faculty and place)
III. Motivi Religiosi IV. Residenza (residence). I have heard that the bank statement doesn't only mean a copy of
ones savings and checking account statement but also means a written
letter from a bank employee saying that you are financially stable.
Ones financial means is not only asked for with a visa in residence
but also for many other visas and is a big concern to the Italian Government
whether you can support yourself once in Italy and not be a financial
dependent on their system. I believe one also must obtain copies of
their fingerprints from the FBI proving they have no previous record
as criminals or serial killers. V. Motivi di Familiari (Family Motive) There are several other reasons (motivi) for a visa that will allow
you to get a Permesso di Soggiorno but these are the main ones that
the majority of immigrants from English speaking countries will use.
Though visas should be obtained from ones country of origin at their
local Italian Consulate before entry to Italy, exceptions do occur.
However, considering the complicated process of getting ones documents
in order, it is best to do it by the book. To get specific details about
paper work needed one should Google their local consulate for information
on visas. Specific sites for English speaking countries are: My experience has been that most consulates are better reached through
email for information and usually have good descriptions of the visa
process on line. The first thing you want to establish is the location of your local
Questura. Once you find out which Questura you need to go to for processing
your Permesso di Soggiorno you should find out the following information:
the hours of processing and what your particular Questura requires for
your particular Permesso di Soggiorno. Unfortunately the requirements
for a Permesso are not standardized throughout Italy. This information
should be provided on-line or at your local Comune or tourist information.
Here is a site that provides the links to all Questuras or Polizia di
Stato www.poliziadistato.it/pds/chisiamo/questure/link.htm Many communities often have individuals who will aid you with receiving
the correct paper work for filing you particular Permesso di Soggiorno.
Often the local Comune or tourist information office will know ways
of contacting these individuals. Three things you will need for sure
are: 1. 4 passport style photographs of yourself, which can be obtained
at almost any photography store. A word of warning for those living in big cities or near big cities that tend to have a large immigrant population…the wait to present your documentation to be processed can take up to 4 to 5 hours. Fortunately most of these Questuras will have you line up for numbers. These lines can begin growing at ungodly hours of the morning such as 5 am or 6 am. The numbers are then passed out with 2 copies of the form modulo 210, which is the generic form needed to be filled out for all types of Permesso di Soggiornos. Fortunately for us English speakers it is in both Italian and English.
Once you have your number, do not trade it with some one else, lose
it or leave it where it could easily be swiped by another desperate
immigrant. This number is the only way you will be able to present your
paper work to the teller. Chances are you will be waiting in great anticipation
for that number in your hot little hands to show up, so keep it dear
to you. Considering you will be waiting for up to 4 or 5 hours, make
sure to bring some sort of activity such as a good book to read, cross
word puzzle or some sort of amusement to pass the time. You could always
leave and come back but be wise about timing. The Carabinieri (state
police) are not sympathetic to those who either missed their number
because they were not there or failed to notice it was called. After you have given the lovely Carabinieri official your documents and they have handed back a stamped and filled out copy of Modulo 210 with one photo of your self, you have the pleasure of returning in probably 2 months to wait again in line to get your finger prints and the official Permesso di Soggiorno. Be aware that often the Questura has different days for pick up, for the Permesso di Soggiorno then drop off of documents. The returned form should have a date posted on it stating when your official Permesso di Soggiorno will be ready. Also the site for your particular Questura should post when your Permesso di Soggiorno is ready for pick up. There are tracking numbers in the top right hand corner of Modulo 210 that will be posted online when ready for pick up. Good luck with the Permesso di Soggiorno. It is annoying and tedious
but a required duty to remain in Italy with out the threat of being
stopped by the Cabinieri and deported back to your country with the
potential penalty of not being able to return for sometime, if ever.
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